Kelley Eskridge’s Wise Advice on Running Meetings

The comments and questions generated by my post last week on Do You End Meetings on Time? are consistently wise and thoughtful, but I wanted to highlight the one by Kelley Eskridge in particular.  It isn't just about ending meetings, it is about how to run a great meeting in general.  I also suggest that you check out Kelley's website and blog.  Her website is for her company, Humans at Work.    You can see why she knows so  much about running groups, as she does this for a living.  The most amazing thing about her company website is that — although she will charge you to do it herself — she provides detailed advice about how to use her group intervention method yourself for free… now that is rare.  I can't imagine Bain, BCG, or McKinsey doing quite the same thing! 

Also, as I read her blog, I also learned Kelley has published a well-reviewed novel and many stories.  Here novel, Solitaire, is being developed into a film.  I guess that explains why her blog is so well-written, as is this lovely advice below on meetings.  I especially like her advice about how a combination of rules, process skills, and a bit of polite courage can be used to gently tamp down destructive and overbearing team members:

One tool that has always helped me facilitate meetings — my own, and those fun times when I am the facilitator for the 35 300-pound-gorilla executives in the room — is Ground Rules. 

I pre-publish a prepared list of ground rules to attendees, and also bring it on a flip chart into the meeting and hang it on the wall.  The rules typically include:

— Start/end the meeting on time
— No interruptions
— No side conversations
— No phone calls/email in the meeting
— Everyone participates in brainstorming
— In dealing with conflict, we focus on the business choices, not on the people arguing for or against them
— We use a "parking lot" to capture ideas that are important to pursue, but not relevant to the work of this meeting. 
— We leave the room with a clear record of decisions made and who is accountable for follow-up.

At the start of the meeting, ask if there is anyone who is not willing to work by these rules, and if there are additional ground rules needed.

And then when the EVP of Bananas starts steamrolling the conversation, cut her off; point to the flip chart; and say, "Cheetah, we have a rule about no interruptions.  I'd like Tarzan  to finish what he was saying and then I'll turn it over to you."

Cheetah won't like it.  But 95% of the time, she'll do it.  The other 5% of the time, you have to be willing to enlist the group's help to enforce the rules.  That goes something like: "Okay, we all agreed to these rules.  Cheetah has just said that she doesn't want to be bound by them.  Does the rest of the group agree that these rules should be ditched?  In my experience as a facilitator, if you're not willing to have rules for meetings, you'll have less effective meetings.  That's up to you.  What would you like to do?"

And then abide by the group's decision.  Which will usually be "well… I think we should have rules… " (with covert looks at Cheetah, who will be pissed but basically powerless, unless she is real asshole).

I can already hear the howls of disbelieving laughter from folks, along the lines of "if only"… but I've done this plenty of times, always with success and never with any kind of retribution beyond the occasional "oh, right, PROCESS!" sneers.

The thing is, people will generally follow the most effective behavior that's modeled for them.  Ground rules help you model the behavior and give you an objective reference point for calling out rudeness/ineffective behavior.

Most workplace assholes get away with it because no one stops them.  Having an objective tool agreed on by the group can really help.

Kelley, thanks for taking the time write such a lovely and thoughtful comment.

Comments

54 responses to “Kelley Eskridge’s Wise Advice on Running Meetings”

  1. Brendan Avatar

    Thanks, just what I needed for my next meeting!

  2. Brendan Avatar

    Thanks, just what I needed for my next meeting!

  3. Brendan Avatar

    Thanks, just what I needed for my next meeting!

  4. Brendan Avatar

    Thanks, just what I needed for my next meeting!

  5. Brendan Avatar

    Thanks, just what I needed for my next meeting!

  6. Brendan Avatar

    Thanks, just what I needed for my next meeting!

  7. Kelley Eskridge Avatar

    Bob, thank you!
    Your blog and the ongoing conversations here are continually great resources for me. If the Ground Rules idea can help one person keep a Cheetah from running amok, I’ll feel as though I’ve been able to give back in a small way to this community where I’ve learned so much. That’s a good feeling.

  8. Kelley Eskridge Avatar

    Bob, thank you!
    Your blog and the ongoing conversations here are continually great resources for me. If the Ground Rules idea can help one person keep a Cheetah from running amok, I’ll feel as though I’ve been able to give back in a small way to this community where I’ve learned so much. That’s a good feeling.

  9. Kelley Eskridge Avatar

    Bob, thank you!
    Your blog and the ongoing conversations here are continually great resources for me. If the Ground Rules idea can help one person keep a Cheetah from running amok, I’ll feel as though I’ve been able to give back in a small way to this community where I’ve learned so much. That’s a good feeling.

  10. Kelley Eskridge Avatar

    Bob, thank you!
    Your blog and the ongoing conversations here are continually great resources for me. If the Ground Rules idea can help one person keep a Cheetah from running amok, I’ll feel as though I’ve been able to give back in a small way to this community where I’ve learned so much. That’s a good feeling.

  11. Kelley Eskridge Avatar

    Bob, thank you!
    Your blog and the ongoing conversations here are continually great resources for me. If the Ground Rules idea can help one person keep a Cheetah from running amok, I’ll feel as though I’ve been able to give back in a small way to this community where I’ve learned so much. That’s a good feeling.

  12. Kelley Eskridge Avatar

    Bob, thank you!
    Your blog and the ongoing conversations here are continually great resources for me. If the Ground Rules idea can help one person keep a Cheetah from running amok, I’ll feel as though I’ve been able to give back in a small way to this community where I’ve learned so much. That’s a good feeling.

  13. Pierce Watters Avatar

    Good stuff. If only any meeting started on time! And no cell phones. Thank you.

  14. Pierce Watters Avatar

    Good stuff. If only any meeting started on time! And no cell phones. Thank you.

  15. Pierce Watters Avatar

    Good stuff. If only any meeting started on time! And no cell phones. Thank you.

  16. Pierce Watters Avatar

    Good stuff. If only any meeting started on time! And no cell phones. Thank you.

  17. Pierce Watters Avatar

    Good stuff. If only any meeting started on time! And no cell phones. Thank you.

  18. Pierce Watters Avatar

    Good stuff. If only any meeting started on time! And no cell phones. Thank you.

  19. SteadyCat Avatar

    This is really good advice. If companies could pour it into their heads, work come become a fantastic place.
    And WOW! Solitaire is being developed into a film? Kelly is ultra-talented. Some would say a king in her field(s).
    Thanks for the information.

  20. SteadyCat Avatar

    This is really good advice. If companies could pour it into their heads, work come become a fantastic place.
    And WOW! Solitaire is being developed into a film? Kelly is ultra-talented. Some would say a king in her field(s).
    Thanks for the information.

  21. SteadyCat Avatar

    This is really good advice. If companies could pour it into their heads, work come become a fantastic place.
    And WOW! Solitaire is being developed into a film? Kelly is ultra-talented. Some would say a king in her field(s).
    Thanks for the information.

  22. SteadyCat Avatar

    This is really good advice. If companies could pour it into their heads, work come become a fantastic place.
    And WOW! Solitaire is being developed into a film? Kelly is ultra-talented. Some would say a king in her field(s).
    Thanks for the information.

  23. SteadyCat Avatar

    This is really good advice. If companies could pour it into their heads, work come become a fantastic place.
    And WOW! Solitaire is being developed into a film? Kelly is ultra-talented. Some would say a king in her field(s).
    Thanks for the information.

  24. SteadyCat Avatar

    This is really good advice. If companies could pour it into their heads, work come become a fantastic place.
    And WOW! Solitaire is being developed into a film? Kelly is ultra-talented. Some would say a king in her field(s).
    Thanks for the information.

  25. Jennifer Avatar
    Jennifer

    Great post. How much of all our interactions could be improved with a few Ground Rules?
    My impression is that the reason Kelley gives away her program for free is that she really believes in what she teaches – treating people in the workplace as Humans. Seems like she is pretty passionate about her message and what it can do for people; giving it away reflects that passion and desire to help people. Who wouldn’t love to work in a place that practices what she teaches? I would.

  26. Jennifer Avatar
    Jennifer

    Great post. How much of all our interactions could be improved with a few Ground Rules?
    My impression is that the reason Kelley gives away her program for free is that she really believes in what she teaches – treating people in the workplace as Humans. Seems like she is pretty passionate about her message and what it can do for people; giving it away reflects that passion and desire to help people. Who wouldn’t love to work in a place that practices what she teaches? I would.

  27. Jennifer Avatar
    Jennifer

    Great post. How much of all our interactions could be improved with a few Ground Rules?
    My impression is that the reason Kelley gives away her program for free is that she really believes in what she teaches – treating people in the workplace as Humans. Seems like she is pretty passionate about her message and what it can do for people; giving it away reflects that passion and desire to help people. Who wouldn’t love to work in a place that practices what she teaches? I would.

  28. Jennifer Avatar
    Jennifer

    Great post. How much of all our interactions could be improved with a few Ground Rules?
    My impression is that the reason Kelley gives away her program for free is that she really believes in what she teaches – treating people in the workplace as Humans. Seems like she is pretty passionate about her message and what it can do for people; giving it away reflects that passion and desire to help people. Who wouldn’t love to work in a place that practices what she teaches? I would.

  29. Jennifer Avatar
    Jennifer

    Great post. How much of all our interactions could be improved with a few Ground Rules?
    My impression is that the reason Kelley gives away her program for free is that she really believes in what she teaches – treating people in the workplace as Humans. Seems like she is pretty passionate about her message and what it can do for people; giving it away reflects that passion and desire to help people. Who wouldn’t love to work in a place that practices what she teaches? I would.

  30. Jennifer Avatar
    Jennifer

    Great post. How much of all our interactions could be improved with a few Ground Rules?
    My impression is that the reason Kelley gives away her program for free is that she really believes in what she teaches – treating people in the workplace as Humans. Seems like she is pretty passionate about her message and what it can do for people; giving it away reflects that passion and desire to help people. Who wouldn’t love to work in a place that practices what she teaches? I would.

  31. Dr Dan Erwin Avatar

    Having worked with identical meeting management skills for years, like Kelley, I’ve found that built-in ground rules put order into chaos and ineffectiveness. Meeting management is often an area of blatant organizational failure, not only in publicly held companies, but also in non-profits, churches, government and schools. The issue is all about profound ignorance of what as far back as the 1970’s was called “discussion and conference leadership.”
    As a faculty member at a medium-sized university, I used to comment that a faculty meeting was a trip to hell, since the dean would never permit me to put ground rules in place. Nice guys, like that dean, would not normally be considered assholes, but their utter failure to build in effectiveness puts them in that category. Such nice guys seem to be gripped by an irresponsible fear of offending people–a fear largely ungrounded and painful to experience. I can’t express how many required meetings I left in utter disgust because of such ineffectiveness. One tactic that I occasionally used at the end of a meeting was to get permission to summarize fundamental issues surfaced and decisions made. I was forced by a few to stop the practice because of its embarrassment.
    At that time, I lacked the political skills I’ve since added to my toolkit. As an external consultant today, I’ve never permitted such failure to happen in my presence, and never gotten anything but accolades for my clarity.
    Though it’s been 25 years, I sense my hostility still smoking over such failure.

  32. Dr Dan Erwin Avatar

    Having worked with identical meeting management skills for years, like Kelley, I’ve found that built-in ground rules put order into chaos and ineffectiveness. Meeting management is often an area of blatant organizational failure, not only in publicly held companies, but also in non-profits, churches, government and schools. The issue is all about profound ignorance of what as far back as the 1970’s was called “discussion and conference leadership.”
    As a faculty member at a medium-sized university, I used to comment that a faculty meeting was a trip to hell, since the dean would never permit me to put ground rules in place. Nice guys, like that dean, would not normally be considered assholes, but their utter failure to build in effectiveness puts them in that category. Such nice guys seem to be gripped by an irresponsible fear of offending people–a fear largely ungrounded and painful to experience. I can’t express how many required meetings I left in utter disgust because of such ineffectiveness. One tactic that I occasionally used at the end of a meeting was to get permission to summarize fundamental issues surfaced and decisions made. I was forced by a few to stop the practice because of its embarrassment.
    At that time, I lacked the political skills I’ve since added to my toolkit. As an external consultant today, I’ve never permitted such failure to happen in my presence, and never gotten anything but accolades for my clarity.
    Though it’s been 25 years, I sense my hostility still smoking over such failure.

  33. Dr Dan Erwin Avatar

    Having worked with identical meeting management skills for years, like Kelley, I’ve found that built-in ground rules put order into chaos and ineffectiveness. Meeting management is often an area of blatant organizational failure, not only in publicly held companies, but also in non-profits, churches, government and schools. The issue is all about profound ignorance of what as far back as the 1970’s was called “discussion and conference leadership.”
    As a faculty member at a medium-sized university, I used to comment that a faculty meeting was a trip to hell, since the dean would never permit me to put ground rules in place. Nice guys, like that dean, would not normally be considered assholes, but their utter failure to build in effectiveness puts them in that category. Such nice guys seem to be gripped by an irresponsible fear of offending people–a fear largely ungrounded and painful to experience. I can’t express how many required meetings I left in utter disgust because of such ineffectiveness. One tactic that I occasionally used at the end of a meeting was to get permission to summarize fundamental issues surfaced and decisions made. I was forced by a few to stop the practice because of its embarrassment.
    At that time, I lacked the political skills I’ve since added to my toolkit. As an external consultant today, I’ve never permitted such failure to happen in my presence, and never gotten anything but accolades for my clarity.
    Though it’s been 25 years, I sense my hostility still smoking over such failure.

  34. Dr Dan Erwin Avatar

    Having worked with identical meeting management skills for years, like Kelley, I’ve found that built-in ground rules put order into chaos and ineffectiveness. Meeting management is often an area of blatant organizational failure, not only in publicly held companies, but also in non-profits, churches, government and schools. The issue is all about profound ignorance of what as far back as the 1970’s was called “discussion and conference leadership.”
    As a faculty member at a medium-sized university, I used to comment that a faculty meeting was a trip to hell, since the dean would never permit me to put ground rules in place. Nice guys, like that dean, would not normally be considered assholes, but their utter failure to build in effectiveness puts them in that category. Such nice guys seem to be gripped by an irresponsible fear of offending people–a fear largely ungrounded and painful to experience. I can’t express how many required meetings I left in utter disgust because of such ineffectiveness. One tactic that I occasionally used at the end of a meeting was to get permission to summarize fundamental issues surfaced and decisions made. I was forced by a few to stop the practice because of its embarrassment.
    At that time, I lacked the political skills I’ve since added to my toolkit. As an external consultant today, I’ve never permitted such failure to happen in my presence, and never gotten anything but accolades for my clarity.
    Though it’s been 25 years, I sense my hostility still smoking over such failure.

  35. Dr Dan Erwin Avatar

    Having worked with identical meeting management skills for years, like Kelley, I’ve found that built-in ground rules put order into chaos and ineffectiveness. Meeting management is often an area of blatant organizational failure, not only in publicly held companies, but also in non-profits, churches, government and schools. The issue is all about profound ignorance of what as far back as the 1970’s was called “discussion and conference leadership.”
    As a faculty member at a medium-sized university, I used to comment that a faculty meeting was a trip to hell, since the dean would never permit me to put ground rules in place. Nice guys, like that dean, would not normally be considered assholes, but their utter failure to build in effectiveness puts them in that category. Such nice guys seem to be gripped by an irresponsible fear of offending people–a fear largely ungrounded and painful to experience. I can’t express how many required meetings I left in utter disgust because of such ineffectiveness. One tactic that I occasionally used at the end of a meeting was to get permission to summarize fundamental issues surfaced and decisions made. I was forced by a few to stop the practice because of its embarrassment.
    At that time, I lacked the political skills I’ve since added to my toolkit. As an external consultant today, I’ve never permitted such failure to happen in my presence, and never gotten anything but accolades for my clarity.
    Though it’s been 25 years, I sense my hostility still smoking over such failure.

  36. Dr Dan Erwin Avatar

    Having worked with identical meeting management skills for years, like Kelley, I’ve found that built-in ground rules put order into chaos and ineffectiveness. Meeting management is often an area of blatant organizational failure, not only in publicly held companies, but also in non-profits, churches, government and schools. The issue is all about profound ignorance of what as far back as the 1970’s was called “discussion and conference leadership.”
    As a faculty member at a medium-sized university, I used to comment that a faculty meeting was a trip to hell, since the dean would never permit me to put ground rules in place. Nice guys, like that dean, would not normally be considered assholes, but their utter failure to build in effectiveness puts them in that category. Such nice guys seem to be gripped by an irresponsible fear of offending people–a fear largely ungrounded and painful to experience. I can’t express how many required meetings I left in utter disgust because of such ineffectiveness. One tactic that I occasionally used at the end of a meeting was to get permission to summarize fundamental issues surfaced and decisions made. I was forced by a few to stop the practice because of its embarrassment.
    At that time, I lacked the political skills I’ve since added to my toolkit. As an external consultant today, I’ve never permitted such failure to happen in my presence, and never gotten anything but accolades for my clarity.
    Though it’s been 25 years, I sense my hostility still smoking over such failure.

  37. barbara sanchez Avatar

    This makes good sense. It’s based on good manners and participation. And as my mother used to say, good manners are the grease of civilization.

  38. barbara sanchez Avatar

    This makes good sense. It’s based on good manners and participation. And as my mother used to say, good manners are the grease of civilization.

  39. barbara sanchez Avatar

    This makes good sense. It’s based on good manners and participation. And as my mother used to say, good manners are the grease of civilization.

  40. barbara sanchez Avatar

    This makes good sense. It’s based on good manners and participation. And as my mother used to say, good manners are the grease of civilization.

  41. barbara sanchez Avatar

    This makes good sense. It’s based on good manners and participation. And as my mother used to say, good manners are the grease of civilization.

  42. barbara sanchez Avatar

    This makes good sense. It’s based on good manners and participation. And as my mother used to say, good manners are the grease of civilization.

  43. Harold Shinsato Avatar

    Great post! I first found out about you from Pamela Slim, but this blog I found out about from some friends at http://coreprotocols.org.
    Most of modern democracy was built around parliamentary procedure and Roberts Rules of Order- ground rules – but I like that you have very simple rules that meeting members consent to. It’s also what I like about the Core Protocols – ground rules and team commitments need not only be restricted to meetings.
    Thanks again for a great blog!

  44. Harold Shinsato Avatar

    Great post! I first found out about you from Pamela Slim, but this blog I found out about from some friends at http://coreprotocols.org.
    Most of modern democracy was built around parliamentary procedure and Roberts Rules of Order- ground rules – but I like that you have very simple rules that meeting members consent to. It’s also what I like about the Core Protocols – ground rules and team commitments need not only be restricted to meetings.
    Thanks again for a great blog!

  45. Harold Shinsato Avatar

    Great post! I first found out about you from Pamela Slim, but this blog I found out about from some friends at http://coreprotocols.org.
    Most of modern democracy was built around parliamentary procedure and Roberts Rules of Order- ground rules – but I like that you have very simple rules that meeting members consent to. It’s also what I like about the Core Protocols – ground rules and team commitments need not only be restricted to meetings.
    Thanks again for a great blog!

  46. Harold Shinsato Avatar

    Great post! I first found out about you from Pamela Slim, but this blog I found out about from some friends at http://coreprotocols.org.
    Most of modern democracy was built around parliamentary procedure and Roberts Rules of Order- ground rules – but I like that you have very simple rules that meeting members consent to. It’s also what I like about the Core Protocols – ground rules and team commitments need not only be restricted to meetings.
    Thanks again for a great blog!

  47. Harold Shinsato Avatar

    Great post! I first found out about you from Pamela Slim, but this blog I found out about from some friends at http://coreprotocols.org.
    Most of modern democracy was built around parliamentary procedure and Roberts Rules of Order- ground rules – but I like that you have very simple rules that meeting members consent to. It’s also what I like about the Core Protocols – ground rules and team commitments need not only be restricted to meetings.
    Thanks again for a great blog!

  48. Harold Shinsato Avatar

    Great post! I first found out about you from Pamela Slim, but this blog I found out about from some friends at http://coreprotocols.org.
    Most of modern democracy was built around parliamentary procedure and Roberts Rules of Order- ground rules – but I like that you have very simple rules that meeting members consent to. It’s also what I like about the Core Protocols – ground rules and team commitments need not only be restricted to meetings.
    Thanks again for a great blog!

  49. Tim | studentlinc.net Avatar
    Tim | studentlinc.net

    Great article. I am a big fan of adding enough structure to meetings so that they are effective uses of time. I’ve also created a worksheet to help the leader of the meeting facilitate the process, as well as develop a plan for the meeting. Check it out at http://studentlinc.typepad.com/studentlinc/2006/05/mpow_version_16.html.

  50. Tim | studentlinc.net Avatar
    Tim | studentlinc.net

    Great article. I am a big fan of adding enough structure to meetings so that they are effective uses of time. I’ve also created a worksheet to help the leader of the meeting facilitate the process, as well as develop a plan for the meeting. Check it out at http://studentlinc.typepad.com/studentlinc/2006/05/mpow_version_16.html.

  51. Tim | studentlinc.net Avatar
    Tim | studentlinc.net

    Great article. I am a big fan of adding enough structure to meetings so that they are effective uses of time. I’ve also created a worksheet to help the leader of the meeting facilitate the process, as well as develop a plan for the meeting. Check it out at http://studentlinc.typepad.com/studentlinc/2006/05/mpow_version_16.html.

  52. Tim | studentlinc.net Avatar
    Tim | studentlinc.net

    Great article. I am a big fan of adding enough structure to meetings so that they are effective uses of time. I’ve also created a worksheet to help the leader of the meeting facilitate the process, as well as develop a plan for the meeting. Check it out at http://studentlinc.typepad.com/studentlinc/2006/05/mpow_version_16.html.

  53. Tim | studentlinc.net Avatar
    Tim | studentlinc.net

    Great article. I am a big fan of adding enough structure to meetings so that they are effective uses of time. I’ve also created a worksheet to help the leader of the meeting facilitate the process, as well as develop a plan for the meeting. Check it out at http://studentlinc.typepad.com/studentlinc/2006/05/mpow_version_16.html.

  54. Tim | studentlinc.net Avatar
    Tim | studentlinc.net

    Great article. I am a big fan of adding enough structure to meetings so that they are effective uses of time. I’ve also created a worksheet to help the leader of the meeting facilitate the process, as well as develop a plan for the meeting. Check it out at http://studentlinc.typepad.com/studentlinc/2006/05/mpow_version_16.html.

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