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The Strategic Use Of Anger During Negotiations: It Doesn’t Work With East Asians

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I was doing some reading on cultural differences in management styles and, once again, BPS Research has a cool study.  There is a stream of research on negotiation that shows the strategic expression of anger is effective, apparently because it is taken as a sign you are "tough" and thus leads your intimidated opponent to make concessions.  A new study by Hajo Adam and his colleagues suggests that this may be a culturally specific finding, which applies to people of Western descent but not necessarily others.  In a pair of studies that compared people of European descent to people of East Asian descent they found, in both a hypothetical and a more realistic negotiation, that people in the two groups had opposite reactions to negotiating with an angry opponent:

"Western-ancestry students were more likely to make a concession to their
negotiation partner whereas the East-Asian ancestry students were less
likely to do so."

This study is quite fascinating for at least three reasons.  The first is that these are pronounced cultural effects.  The second is they aren't simply pronounced in magnitude — rather they demonstrate a reversal depending on the cultural background. So although many of us may claim that people are the same no matter where they are from, this apparently isn't so (at least on some dimensions).  The third is more practical: if you are a Westerner and are accustomed to getting your way by browbeating negotiation opponents (and speaking in an angry tone), your usual approach may backfire if you try to use it on East Asians. And if you are from an Asian background, and have to negotiate with Westerners, it might help you to get pissed-off (or at least pretend to be) at times. 

Cool study.  And instructive. It is only one study, but there are other experiments that show such cultural differences on other dimensions — for example that Westerners are more like to "free-ride" or engage in "social-loafing" then people raised in Asian cultures.  For example, this study found that Chinese school kids performed better when working in pairs than working alone on an "auditory tracking task"; but U.S. school kids performed better when working alone than in pairs.  Again, there is a reverse effect, and evidence that well, we aren't all the same. 

What are your reactions to these cultural differences?  The usual explanation for such findings is that Asians are from "collectivistic" cultures and that Westerners are from "individualistic" cultures.  Is that why? Any other explanations or implications strike you? 

P.S. The citation for the negotiation study is: Adam H, Shirako A, & Maddux WW (2010). Cultural variance in the interpersonal effects of anger in negotiations. Psychological science : a journal of the American Psychological Society / APS, 21 (6)

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64 responses to “The Strategic Use Of Anger During Negotiations: It Doesn’t Work With East Asians”

  1. Frode H Avatar
    Frode H

    “Asians are from “collectivistic” cultures and that Westerners are from “individualistic” cultures.”
    – This is a huge factor. I have been reading a lot about burnouts, motivation, depression and so on lately. And the individualistic culture is getting a lot of blame.
    An individualistic culture is great, there is only one problem with it, when wester culture became individualistic we also hit generation Y and at the same time developed a narcissistic culture. This gives us a strong ego. An individualistic culture works at its best when the individual is closer to alturism than narcissism. This is a very interesting study.

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  2. Frode H Avatar
    Frode H

    “Asians are from “collectivistic” cultures and that Westerners are from “individualistic” cultures.”
    – This is a huge factor. I have been reading a lot about burnouts, motivation, depression and so on lately. And the individualistic culture is getting a lot of blame.
    An individualistic culture is great, there is only one problem with it, when wester culture became individualistic we also hit generation Y and at the same time developed a narcissistic culture. This gives us a strong ego. An individualistic culture works at its best when the individual is closer to alturism than narcissism. This is a very interesting study.

    Reply
  3. Frode H Avatar
    Frode H

    “Asians are from “collectivistic” cultures and that Westerners are from “individualistic” cultures.”
    – This is a huge factor. I have been reading a lot about burnouts, motivation, depression and so on lately. And the individualistic culture is getting a lot of blame.
    An individualistic culture is great, there is only one problem with it, when wester culture became individualistic we also hit generation Y and at the same time developed a narcissistic culture. This gives us a strong ego. An individualistic culture works at its best when the individual is closer to alturism than narcissism. This is a very interesting study.

    Reply
  4. Frode H Avatar
    Frode H

    “Asians are from “collectivistic” cultures and that Westerners are from “individualistic” cultures.”
    – This is a huge factor. I have been reading a lot about burnouts, motivation, depression and so on lately. And the individualistic culture is getting a lot of blame.
    An individualistic culture is great, there is only one problem with it, when wester culture became individualistic we also hit generation Y and at the same time developed a narcissistic culture. This gives us a strong ego. An individualistic culture works at its best when the individual is closer to alturism than narcissism. This is a very interesting study.

    Reply
  5. Frode H Avatar
    Frode H

    “Asians are from “collectivistic” cultures and that Westerners are from “individualistic” cultures.”
    – This is a huge factor. I have been reading a lot about burnouts, motivation, depression and so on lately. And the individualistic culture is getting a lot of blame.
    An individualistic culture is great, there is only one problem with it, when wester culture became individualistic we also hit generation Y and at the same time developed a narcissistic culture. This gives us a strong ego. An individualistic culture works at its best when the individual is closer to alturism than narcissism. This is a very interesting study.

    Reply
  6. Frode H Avatar
    Frode H

    “Asians are from “collectivistic” cultures and that Westerners are from “individualistic” cultures.”
    – This is a huge factor. I have been reading a lot about burnouts, motivation, depression and so on lately. And the individualistic culture is getting a lot of blame.
    An individualistic culture is great, there is only one problem with it, when wester culture became individualistic we also hit generation Y and at the same time developed a narcissistic culture. This gives us a strong ego. An individualistic culture works at its best when the individual is closer to alturism than narcissism. This is a very interesting study.

    Reply
  7. Frode H Avatar
    Frode H

    “Asians are from “collectivistic” cultures and that Westerners are from “individualistic” cultures.”
    – This is a huge factor. I have been reading a lot about burnouts, motivation, depression and so on lately. And the individualistic culture is getting a lot of blame.
    An individualistic culture is great, there is only one problem with it, when wester culture became individualistic we also hit generation Y and at the same time developed a narcissistic culture. This gives us a strong ego. An individualistic culture works at its best when the individual is closer to alturism than narcissism. This is a very interesting study.

    Reply
  8. Frode H Avatar
    Frode H

    “Asians are from “collectivistic” cultures and that Westerners are from “individualistic” cultures.”
    – This is a huge factor. I have been reading a lot about burnouts, motivation, depression and so on lately. And the individualistic culture is getting a lot of blame.
    An individualistic culture is great, there is only one problem with it, when wester culture became individualistic we also hit generation Y and at the same time developed a narcissistic culture. This gives us a strong ego. An individualistic culture works at its best when the individual is closer to alturism than narcissism. This is a very interesting study.

    Reply
  9. Banerjee Avatar
    Banerjee

    Asia includes a huge range of cultures that don’t seem to have much in common. I can’t grasp why the people of eastern China are considered to be representative of all Asians?
    I find Westerners much more collectivist than Indians as evident from the numerous social organizations, such as Churches, in the West.

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  10. Banerjee Avatar
    Banerjee

    Asia includes a huge range of cultures that don’t seem to have much in common. I can’t grasp why the people of eastern China are considered to be representative of all Asians?
    I find Westerners much more collectivist than Indians as evident from the numerous social organizations, such as Churches, in the West.

    Reply
  11. Banerjee Avatar
    Banerjee

    Asia includes a huge range of cultures that don’t seem to have much in common. I can’t grasp why the people of eastern China are considered to be representative of all Asians?
    I find Westerners much more collectivist than Indians as evident from the numerous social organizations, such as Churches, in the West.

    Reply
  12. Banerjee Avatar
    Banerjee

    Asia includes a huge range of cultures that don’t seem to have much in common. I can’t grasp why the people of eastern China are considered to be representative of all Asians?
    I find Westerners much more collectivist than Indians as evident from the numerous social organizations, such as Churches, in the West.

    Reply
  13. Banerjee Avatar
    Banerjee

    Asia includes a huge range of cultures that don’t seem to have much in common. I can’t grasp why the people of eastern China are considered to be representative of all Asians?
    I find Westerners much more collectivist than Indians as evident from the numerous social organizations, such as Churches, in the West.

    Reply
  14. Banerjee Avatar
    Banerjee

    Asia includes a huge range of cultures that don’t seem to have much in common. I can’t grasp why the people of eastern China are considered to be representative of all Asians?
    I find Westerners much more collectivist than Indians as evident from the numerous social organizations, such as Churches, in the West.

    Reply
  15. Banerjee Avatar
    Banerjee

    Asia includes a huge range of cultures that don’t seem to have much in common. I can’t grasp why the people of eastern China are considered to be representative of all Asians?
    I find Westerners much more collectivist than Indians as evident from the numerous social organizations, such as Churches, in the West.

    Reply
  16. Banerjee Avatar
    Banerjee

    Asia includes a huge range of cultures that don’t seem to have much in common. I can’t grasp why the people of eastern China are considered to be representative of all Asians?
    I find Westerners much more collectivist than Indians as evident from the numerous social organizations, such as Churches, in the West.

    Reply
  17. Bhv Avatar
    Bhv

    I would like to highlight Pr. Richard Nisbett research. His suggestions is that social systems create different “naive metaphysics” and “tacit epistemology”.
    see in particular:
    Nisbett, R. E., Peng, K., Choi, I., & Norenzayan, A. (2001). Culture and systems of thought: Holistic vs. analytic cognition.
    Psychological Review, 108, 291-310. https://sitemaker.umich.edu/richard.nisbett/files/culture_and_systems.pdf
    other publications:
    https://sitemaker.umich.edu/encrypt/richard.nisbett/selected_publications
    of course, this creates another question: why does East and West have different social systems? One answer might come form Jared Diamond (Guns, Germs and Steel). If social systems are shaped by the environment and by how people manage it (e.g. agriculture vs. pastoral cultures, herding vs. farming), then the root cause of these cognitive patterns might be in how ancestral societies dealt collectively with natural resources. This also how Nisbett explains the difference between American culture wrt violence in the North and the South ( Culture of Honor: The Psychology of Violence in the South ).

    Reply
  18. Bhv Avatar
    Bhv

    I would like to highlight Pr. Richard Nisbett research. His suggestions is that social systems create different “naive metaphysics” and “tacit epistemology”.
    see in particular:
    Nisbett, R. E., Peng, K., Choi, I., & Norenzayan, A. (2001). Culture and systems of thought: Holistic vs. analytic cognition.
    Psychological Review, 108, 291-310. https://sitemaker.umich.edu/richard.nisbett/files/culture_and_systems.pdf
    other publications:
    https://sitemaker.umich.edu/encrypt/richard.nisbett/selected_publications
    of course, this creates another question: why does East and West have different social systems? One answer might come form Jared Diamond (Guns, Germs and Steel). If social systems are shaped by the environment and by how people manage it (e.g. agriculture vs. pastoral cultures, herding vs. farming), then the root cause of these cognitive patterns might be in how ancestral societies dealt collectively with natural resources. This also how Nisbett explains the difference between American culture wrt violence in the North and the South ( Culture of Honor: The Psychology of Violence in the South ).

    Reply
  19. Bhv Avatar
    Bhv

    I would like to highlight Pr. Richard Nisbett research. His suggestions is that social systems create different “naive metaphysics” and “tacit epistemology”.
    see in particular:
    Nisbett, R. E., Peng, K., Choi, I., & Norenzayan, A. (2001). Culture and systems of thought: Holistic vs. analytic cognition.
    Psychological Review, 108, 291-310. https://sitemaker.umich.edu/richard.nisbett/files/culture_and_systems.pdf
    other publications:
    https://sitemaker.umich.edu/encrypt/richard.nisbett/selected_publications
    of course, this creates another question: why does East and West have different social systems? One answer might come form Jared Diamond (Guns, Germs and Steel). If social systems are shaped by the environment and by how people manage it (e.g. agriculture vs. pastoral cultures, herding vs. farming), then the root cause of these cognitive patterns might be in how ancestral societies dealt collectively with natural resources. This also how Nisbett explains the difference between American culture wrt violence in the North and the South ( Culture of Honor: The Psychology of Violence in the South ).

    Reply
  20. Bhv Avatar
    Bhv

    I would like to highlight Pr. Richard Nisbett research. His suggestions is that social systems create different “naive metaphysics” and “tacit epistemology”.
    see in particular:
    Nisbett, R. E., Peng, K., Choi, I., & Norenzayan, A. (2001). Culture and systems of thought: Holistic vs. analytic cognition.
    Psychological Review, 108, 291-310. https://sitemaker.umich.edu/richard.nisbett/files/culture_and_systems.pdf
    other publications:
    https://sitemaker.umich.edu/encrypt/richard.nisbett/selected_publications
    of course, this creates another question: why does East and West have different social systems? One answer might come form Jared Diamond (Guns, Germs and Steel). If social systems are shaped by the environment and by how people manage it (e.g. agriculture vs. pastoral cultures, herding vs. farming), then the root cause of these cognitive patterns might be in how ancestral societies dealt collectively with natural resources. This also how Nisbett explains the difference between American culture wrt violence in the North and the South ( Culture of Honor: The Psychology of Violence in the South ).

    Reply
  21. Bhv Avatar
    Bhv

    I would like to highlight Pr. Richard Nisbett research. His suggestions is that social systems create different “naive metaphysics” and “tacit epistemology”.
    see in particular:
    Nisbett, R. E., Peng, K., Choi, I., & Norenzayan, A. (2001). Culture and systems of thought: Holistic vs. analytic cognition.
    Psychological Review, 108, 291-310. https://sitemaker.umich.edu/richard.nisbett/files/culture_and_systems.pdf
    other publications:
    https://sitemaker.umich.edu/encrypt/richard.nisbett/selected_publications
    of course, this creates another question: why does East and West have different social systems? One answer might come form Jared Diamond (Guns, Germs and Steel). If social systems are shaped by the environment and by how people manage it (e.g. agriculture vs. pastoral cultures, herding vs. farming), then the root cause of these cognitive patterns might be in how ancestral societies dealt collectively with natural resources. This also how Nisbett explains the difference between American culture wrt violence in the North and the South ( Culture of Honor: The Psychology of Violence in the South ).

    Reply
  22. Bhv Avatar
    Bhv

    I would like to highlight Pr. Richard Nisbett research. His suggestions is that social systems create different “naive metaphysics” and “tacit epistemology”.
    see in particular:
    Nisbett, R. E., Peng, K., Choi, I., & Norenzayan, A. (2001). Culture and systems of thought: Holistic vs. analytic cognition.
    Psychological Review, 108, 291-310. https://sitemaker.umich.edu/richard.nisbett/files/culture_and_systems.pdf
    other publications:
    https://sitemaker.umich.edu/encrypt/richard.nisbett/selected_publications
    of course, this creates another question: why does East and West have different social systems? One answer might come form Jared Diamond (Guns, Germs and Steel). If social systems are shaped by the environment and by how people manage it (e.g. agriculture vs. pastoral cultures, herding vs. farming), then the root cause of these cognitive patterns might be in how ancestral societies dealt collectively with natural resources. This also how Nisbett explains the difference between American culture wrt violence in the North and the South ( Culture of Honor: The Psychology of Violence in the South ).

    Reply
  23. Bhv Avatar
    Bhv

    I would like to highlight Pr. Richard Nisbett research. His suggestions is that social systems create different “naive metaphysics” and “tacit epistemology”.
    see in particular:
    Nisbett, R. E., Peng, K., Choi, I., & Norenzayan, A. (2001). Culture and systems of thought: Holistic vs. analytic cognition.
    Psychological Review, 108, 291-310. https://sitemaker.umich.edu/richard.nisbett/files/culture_and_systems.pdf
    other publications:
    https://sitemaker.umich.edu/encrypt/richard.nisbett/selected_publications
    of course, this creates another question: why does East and West have different social systems? One answer might come form Jared Diamond (Guns, Germs and Steel). If social systems are shaped by the environment and by how people manage it (e.g. agriculture vs. pastoral cultures, herding vs. farming), then the root cause of these cognitive patterns might be in how ancestral societies dealt collectively with natural resources. This also how Nisbett explains the difference between American culture wrt violence in the North and the South ( Culture of Honor: The Psychology of Violence in the South ).

    Reply
  24. Bhv Avatar
    Bhv

    I would like to highlight Pr. Richard Nisbett research. His suggestions is that social systems create different “naive metaphysics” and “tacit epistemology”.
    see in particular:
    Nisbett, R. E., Peng, K., Choi, I., & Norenzayan, A. (2001). Culture and systems of thought: Holistic vs. analytic cognition.
    Psychological Review, 108, 291-310. https://sitemaker.umich.edu/richard.nisbett/files/culture_and_systems.pdf
    other publications:
    https://sitemaker.umich.edu/encrypt/richard.nisbett/selected_publications
    of course, this creates another question: why does East and West have different social systems? One answer might come form Jared Diamond (Guns, Germs and Steel). If social systems are shaped by the environment and by how people manage it (e.g. agriculture vs. pastoral cultures, herding vs. farming), then the root cause of these cognitive patterns might be in how ancestral societies dealt collectively with natural resources. This also how Nisbett explains the difference between American culture wrt violence in the North and the South ( Culture of Honor: The Psychology of Violence in the South ).

    Reply
  25. billpetti.com Avatar
    billpetti.com

    It is interesting research. However, I think there are limitations to it’s generalizability, mostly because the research design did not address multiple audiences.
    Signals are rarely sent in a vacuum. Particularly when it comes to business, people rarely interact in a purely one-on-one setting, where their actions are guaranteed to stay hidden from any third parties. Typically, the signals we send will be seen and interpreted by multiple audiences and this can significantly complicate negotiations. Public bullying may backfire and cause the target to dig in their heels instead of offering concessions. Signals must not only be clear enough to minimize the variance around their interpretation. They must also avoid creating a situation that actually makes it harder for the target to behave in the way the sender wants them to.
    The research by Adam, et al., looked at pairs of negotiators separated from other observers. If they had introduced third parties my guess is that their results would have been different. Backing down to an aggressive threat would likely be viewed as unacceptable across both Western and East Asian subjects for related reasons. For many Westerners, backing down to a threat would signal weakness and a lack of resolve. If third parties are present and see this they may assume that the subject that made the concession could be bullied in a similar manner in the future. In order to avoid being challenged in this way by multiple actors down the road, the subject is more likely to stand firm and avoid giving any concessions under duress. A similar dynamic is likely to play out with those of East Asian decent given the importance of “face” and honor in those cultures. When additional subjects are introduced into the experiment the results are less likely to break down among cultural lines.

    Reply
  26. billpetti.com Avatar
    billpetti.com

    It is interesting research. However, I think there are limitations to it’s generalizability, mostly because the research design did not address multiple audiences.
    Signals are rarely sent in a vacuum. Particularly when it comes to business, people rarely interact in a purely one-on-one setting, where their actions are guaranteed to stay hidden from any third parties. Typically, the signals we send will be seen and interpreted by multiple audiences and this can significantly complicate negotiations. Public bullying may backfire and cause the target to dig in their heels instead of offering concessions. Signals must not only be clear enough to minimize the variance around their interpretation. They must also avoid creating a situation that actually makes it harder for the target to behave in the way the sender wants them to.
    The research by Adam, et al., looked at pairs of negotiators separated from other observers. If they had introduced third parties my guess is that their results would have been different. Backing down to an aggressive threat would likely be viewed as unacceptable across both Western and East Asian subjects for related reasons. For many Westerners, backing down to a threat would signal weakness and a lack of resolve. If third parties are present and see this they may assume that the subject that made the concession could be bullied in a similar manner in the future. In order to avoid being challenged in this way by multiple actors down the road, the subject is more likely to stand firm and avoid giving any concessions under duress. A similar dynamic is likely to play out with those of East Asian decent given the importance of “face” and honor in those cultures. When additional subjects are introduced into the experiment the results are less likely to break down among cultural lines.

    Reply
  27. billpetti.com Avatar
    billpetti.com

    It is interesting research. However, I think there are limitations to it’s generalizability, mostly because the research design did not address multiple audiences.
    Signals are rarely sent in a vacuum. Particularly when it comes to business, people rarely interact in a purely one-on-one setting, where their actions are guaranteed to stay hidden from any third parties. Typically, the signals we send will be seen and interpreted by multiple audiences and this can significantly complicate negotiations. Public bullying may backfire and cause the target to dig in their heels instead of offering concessions. Signals must not only be clear enough to minimize the variance around their interpretation. They must also avoid creating a situation that actually makes it harder for the target to behave in the way the sender wants them to.
    The research by Adam, et al., looked at pairs of negotiators separated from other observers. If they had introduced third parties my guess is that their results would have been different. Backing down to an aggressive threat would likely be viewed as unacceptable across both Western and East Asian subjects for related reasons. For many Westerners, backing down to a threat would signal weakness and a lack of resolve. If third parties are present and see this they may assume that the subject that made the concession could be bullied in a similar manner in the future. In order to avoid being challenged in this way by multiple actors down the road, the subject is more likely to stand firm and avoid giving any concessions under duress. A similar dynamic is likely to play out with those of East Asian decent given the importance of “face” and honor in those cultures. When additional subjects are introduced into the experiment the results are less likely to break down among cultural lines.

    Reply
  28. billpetti.com Avatar
    billpetti.com

    It is interesting research. However, I think there are limitations to it’s generalizability, mostly because the research design did not address multiple audiences.
    Signals are rarely sent in a vacuum. Particularly when it comes to business, people rarely interact in a purely one-on-one setting, where their actions are guaranteed to stay hidden from any third parties. Typically, the signals we send will be seen and interpreted by multiple audiences and this can significantly complicate negotiations. Public bullying may backfire and cause the target to dig in their heels instead of offering concessions. Signals must not only be clear enough to minimize the variance around their interpretation. They must also avoid creating a situation that actually makes it harder for the target to behave in the way the sender wants them to.
    The research by Adam, et al., looked at pairs of negotiators separated from other observers. If they had introduced third parties my guess is that their results would have been different. Backing down to an aggressive threat would likely be viewed as unacceptable across both Western and East Asian subjects for related reasons. For many Westerners, backing down to a threat would signal weakness and a lack of resolve. If third parties are present and see this they may assume that the subject that made the concession could be bullied in a similar manner in the future. In order to avoid being challenged in this way by multiple actors down the road, the subject is more likely to stand firm and avoid giving any concessions under duress. A similar dynamic is likely to play out with those of East Asian decent given the importance of “face” and honor in those cultures. When additional subjects are introduced into the experiment the results are less likely to break down among cultural lines.

    Reply
  29. billpetti.com Avatar
    billpetti.com

    It is interesting research. However, I think there are limitations to it’s generalizability, mostly because the research design did not address multiple audiences.
    Signals are rarely sent in a vacuum. Particularly when it comes to business, people rarely interact in a purely one-on-one setting, where their actions are guaranteed to stay hidden from any third parties. Typically, the signals we send will be seen and interpreted by multiple audiences and this can significantly complicate negotiations. Public bullying may backfire and cause the target to dig in their heels instead of offering concessions. Signals must not only be clear enough to minimize the variance around their interpretation. They must also avoid creating a situation that actually makes it harder for the target to behave in the way the sender wants them to.
    The research by Adam, et al., looked at pairs of negotiators separated from other observers. If they had introduced third parties my guess is that their results would have been different. Backing down to an aggressive threat would likely be viewed as unacceptable across both Western and East Asian subjects for related reasons. For many Westerners, backing down to a threat would signal weakness and a lack of resolve. If third parties are present and see this they may assume that the subject that made the concession could be bullied in a similar manner in the future. In order to avoid being challenged in this way by multiple actors down the road, the subject is more likely to stand firm and avoid giving any concessions under duress. A similar dynamic is likely to play out with those of East Asian decent given the importance of “face” and honor in those cultures. When additional subjects are introduced into the experiment the results are less likely to break down among cultural lines.

    Reply
  30. billpetti.com Avatar
    billpetti.com

    It is interesting research. However, I think there are limitations to it’s generalizability, mostly because the research design did not address multiple audiences.
    Signals are rarely sent in a vacuum. Particularly when it comes to business, people rarely interact in a purely one-on-one setting, where their actions are guaranteed to stay hidden from any third parties. Typically, the signals we send will be seen and interpreted by multiple audiences and this can significantly complicate negotiations. Public bullying may backfire and cause the target to dig in their heels instead of offering concessions. Signals must not only be clear enough to minimize the variance around their interpretation. They must also avoid creating a situation that actually makes it harder for the target to behave in the way the sender wants them to.
    The research by Adam, et al., looked at pairs of negotiators separated from other observers. If they had introduced third parties my guess is that their results would have been different. Backing down to an aggressive threat would likely be viewed as unacceptable across both Western and East Asian subjects for related reasons. For many Westerners, backing down to a threat would signal weakness and a lack of resolve. If third parties are present and see this they may assume that the subject that made the concession could be bullied in a similar manner in the future. In order to avoid being challenged in this way by multiple actors down the road, the subject is more likely to stand firm and avoid giving any concessions under duress. A similar dynamic is likely to play out with those of East Asian decent given the importance of “face” and honor in those cultures. When additional subjects are introduced into the experiment the results are less likely to break down among cultural lines.

    Reply
  31. billpetti.com Avatar
    billpetti.com

    It is interesting research. However, I think there are limitations to it’s generalizability, mostly because the research design did not address multiple audiences.
    Signals are rarely sent in a vacuum. Particularly when it comes to business, people rarely interact in a purely one-on-one setting, where their actions are guaranteed to stay hidden from any third parties. Typically, the signals we send will be seen and interpreted by multiple audiences and this can significantly complicate negotiations. Public bullying may backfire and cause the target to dig in their heels instead of offering concessions. Signals must not only be clear enough to minimize the variance around their interpretation. They must also avoid creating a situation that actually makes it harder for the target to behave in the way the sender wants them to.
    The research by Adam, et al., looked at pairs of negotiators separated from other observers. If they had introduced third parties my guess is that their results would have been different. Backing down to an aggressive threat would likely be viewed as unacceptable across both Western and East Asian subjects for related reasons. For many Westerners, backing down to a threat would signal weakness and a lack of resolve. If third parties are present and see this they may assume that the subject that made the concession could be bullied in a similar manner in the future. In order to avoid being challenged in this way by multiple actors down the road, the subject is more likely to stand firm and avoid giving any concessions under duress. A similar dynamic is likely to play out with those of East Asian decent given the importance of “face” and honor in those cultures. When additional subjects are introduced into the experiment the results are less likely to break down among cultural lines.

    Reply
  32. billpetti.com Avatar
    billpetti.com

    It is interesting research. However, I think there are limitations to it’s generalizability, mostly because the research design did not address multiple audiences.
    Signals are rarely sent in a vacuum. Particularly when it comes to business, people rarely interact in a purely one-on-one setting, where their actions are guaranteed to stay hidden from any third parties. Typically, the signals we send will be seen and interpreted by multiple audiences and this can significantly complicate negotiations. Public bullying may backfire and cause the target to dig in their heels instead of offering concessions. Signals must not only be clear enough to minimize the variance around their interpretation. They must also avoid creating a situation that actually makes it harder for the target to behave in the way the sender wants them to.
    The research by Adam, et al., looked at pairs of negotiators separated from other observers. If they had introduced third parties my guess is that their results would have been different. Backing down to an aggressive threat would likely be viewed as unacceptable across both Western and East Asian subjects for related reasons. For many Westerners, backing down to a threat would signal weakness and a lack of resolve. If third parties are present and see this they may assume that the subject that made the concession could be bullied in a similar manner in the future. In order to avoid being challenged in this way by multiple actors down the road, the subject is more likely to stand firm and avoid giving any concessions under duress. A similar dynamic is likely to play out with those of East Asian decent given the importance of “face” and honor in those cultures. When additional subjects are introduced into the experiment the results are less likely to break down among cultural lines.

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  33. Greg Avatar
    Greg

    Reminds me of when I sold cars in Dallas, TX. Chinese customers were great, but you would spend half a day negotiating with them.
    No science, but we all knew to approach customers differently by race, ethnicity, economic, and social appearance.
    You just did not try to take half a day with a busy American executive-type. You did not try to close a deal in thirty minutes with a Chinese customer. And Indians, women, men, lesbians, et. al. were all handled diffrently (if you wanted to make a sale).

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  34. Greg Avatar
    Greg

    Reminds me of when I sold cars in Dallas, TX. Chinese customers were great, but you would spend half a day negotiating with them.
    No science, but we all knew to approach customers differently by race, ethnicity, economic, and social appearance.
    You just did not try to take half a day with a busy American executive-type. You did not try to close a deal in thirty minutes with a Chinese customer. And Indians, women, men, lesbians, et. al. were all handled diffrently (if you wanted to make a sale).

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  35. Greg Avatar
    Greg

    Reminds me of when I sold cars in Dallas, TX. Chinese customers were great, but you would spend half a day negotiating with them.
    No science, but we all knew to approach customers differently by race, ethnicity, economic, and social appearance.
    You just did not try to take half a day with a busy American executive-type. You did not try to close a deal in thirty minutes with a Chinese customer. And Indians, women, men, lesbians, et. al. were all handled diffrently (if you wanted to make a sale).

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  36. Greg Avatar
    Greg

    Reminds me of when I sold cars in Dallas, TX. Chinese customers were great, but you would spend half a day negotiating with them.
    No science, but we all knew to approach customers differently by race, ethnicity, economic, and social appearance.
    You just did not try to take half a day with a busy American executive-type. You did not try to close a deal in thirty minutes with a Chinese customer. And Indians, women, men, lesbians, et. al. were all handled diffrently (if you wanted to make a sale).

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  37. Greg Avatar
    Greg

    Reminds me of when I sold cars in Dallas, TX. Chinese customers were great, but you would spend half a day negotiating with them.
    No science, but we all knew to approach customers differently by race, ethnicity, economic, and social appearance.
    You just did not try to take half a day with a busy American executive-type. You did not try to close a deal in thirty minutes with a Chinese customer. And Indians, women, men, lesbians, et. al. were all handled diffrently (if you wanted to make a sale).

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  38. Greg Avatar
    Greg

    Reminds me of when I sold cars in Dallas, TX. Chinese customers were great, but you would spend half a day negotiating with them.
    No science, but we all knew to approach customers differently by race, ethnicity, economic, and social appearance.
    You just did not try to take half a day with a busy American executive-type. You did not try to close a deal in thirty minutes with a Chinese customer. And Indians, women, men, lesbians, et. al. were all handled diffrently (if you wanted to make a sale).

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  39. Greg Avatar
    Greg

    Reminds me of when I sold cars in Dallas, TX. Chinese customers were great, but you would spend half a day negotiating with them.
    No science, but we all knew to approach customers differently by race, ethnicity, economic, and social appearance.
    You just did not try to take half a day with a busy American executive-type. You did not try to close a deal in thirty minutes with a Chinese customer. And Indians, women, men, lesbians, et. al. were all handled diffrently (if you wanted to make a sale).

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  40. Greg Avatar
    Greg

    Reminds me of when I sold cars in Dallas, TX. Chinese customers were great, but you would spend half a day negotiating with them.
    No science, but we all knew to approach customers differently by race, ethnicity, economic, and social appearance.
    You just did not try to take half a day with a busy American executive-type. You did not try to close a deal in thirty minutes with a Chinese customer. And Indians, women, men, lesbians, et. al. were all handled diffrently (if you wanted to make a sale).

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  41. Paul Reist Avatar
    Paul Reist

    Interesting. I seem to recall reading that the Inuit have a very low tolerance for anger and emotional displays. Anyone exhibit overt signs of anger may be shunned by the community, or treated as insane. Emotional displays by babies apparently are given minimal attention, to condition the child toward acceptance.

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    Paul Reist

    Interesting. I seem to recall reading that the Inuit have a very low tolerance for anger and emotional displays. Anyone exhibit overt signs of anger may be shunned by the community, or treated as insane. Emotional displays by babies apparently are given minimal attention, to condition the child toward acceptance.

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    Paul Reist

    Interesting. I seem to recall reading that the Inuit have a very low tolerance for anger and emotional displays. Anyone exhibit overt signs of anger may be shunned by the community, or treated as insane. Emotional displays by babies apparently are given minimal attention, to condition the child toward acceptance.

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    Paul Reist

    Interesting. I seem to recall reading that the Inuit have a very low tolerance for anger and emotional displays. Anyone exhibit overt signs of anger may be shunned by the community, or treated as insane. Emotional displays by babies apparently are given minimal attention, to condition the child toward acceptance.

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    Paul Reist

    Interesting. I seem to recall reading that the Inuit have a very low tolerance for anger and emotional displays. Anyone exhibit overt signs of anger may be shunned by the community, or treated as insane. Emotional displays by babies apparently are given minimal attention, to condition the child toward acceptance.

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  46. Paul Reist Avatar
    Paul Reist

    Interesting. I seem to recall reading that the Inuit have a very low tolerance for anger and emotional displays. Anyone exhibit overt signs of anger may be shunned by the community, or treated as insane. Emotional displays by babies apparently are given minimal attention, to condition the child toward acceptance.

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  47. Paul Reist Avatar
    Paul Reist

    Interesting. I seem to recall reading that the Inuit have a very low tolerance for anger and emotional displays. Anyone exhibit overt signs of anger may be shunned by the community, or treated as insane. Emotional displays by babies apparently are given minimal attention, to condition the child toward acceptance.

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  48. Paul Reist Avatar
    Paul Reist

    Interesting. I seem to recall reading that the Inuit have a very low tolerance for anger and emotional displays. Anyone exhibit overt signs of anger may be shunned by the community, or treated as insane. Emotional displays by babies apparently are given minimal attention, to condition the child toward acceptance.

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  49. Arata Mitsumatsu Avatar
    Arata Mitsumatsu

    This study makes a lot of sense to me. In the East Asian culture showing anger means you can’t control your emotions. If you can’t control yourself there is noway you can control others and obviously an organization.
    Easily showing anger indicates you have low emotional control skills which shows your not tough or immature.
    Oh, and off course there are people in East Asia who think showing anger looks tough so not trying to generalize anything but don’t think it’s a majority.
    Not a good or bad thing. Just the matter of the value system and I think it has lot to do with the farming system. I believe the irrigation for rice farming develops a “collectivistic” culture. There is even a four letter character “my paddy pull water” which means “Selfish”.
    By the way I use both 🙂

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  50. Arata Mitsumatsu Avatar
    Arata Mitsumatsu

    This study makes a lot of sense to me. In the East Asian culture showing anger means you can’t control your emotions. If you can’t control yourself there is noway you can control others and obviously an organization.
    Easily showing anger indicates you have low emotional control skills which shows your not tough or immature.
    Oh, and off course there are people in East Asia who think showing anger looks tough so not trying to generalize anything but don’t think it’s a majority.
    Not a good or bad thing. Just the matter of the value system and I think it has lot to do with the farming system. I believe the irrigation for rice farming develops a “collectivistic” culture. There is even a four letter character “my paddy pull water” which means “Selfish”.
    By the way I use both 🙂

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  51. Arata Mitsumatsu Avatar
    Arata Mitsumatsu

    This study makes a lot of sense to me. In the East Asian culture showing anger means you can’t control your emotions. If you can’t control yourself there is noway you can control others and obviously an organization.
    Easily showing anger indicates you have low emotional control skills which shows your not tough or immature.
    Oh, and off course there are people in East Asia who think showing anger looks tough so not trying to generalize anything but don’t think it’s a majority.
    Not a good or bad thing. Just the matter of the value system and I think it has lot to do with the farming system. I believe the irrigation for rice farming develops a “collectivistic” culture. There is even a four letter character “my paddy pull water” which means “Selfish”.
    By the way I use both 🙂

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  52. Arata Mitsumatsu Avatar
    Arata Mitsumatsu

    This study makes a lot of sense to me. In the East Asian culture showing anger means you can’t control your emotions. If you can’t control yourself there is noway you can control others and obviously an organization.
    Easily showing anger indicates you have low emotional control skills which shows your not tough or immature.
    Oh, and off course there are people in East Asia who think showing anger looks tough so not trying to generalize anything but don’t think it’s a majority.
    Not a good or bad thing. Just the matter of the value system and I think it has lot to do with the farming system. I believe the irrigation for rice farming develops a “collectivistic” culture. There is even a four letter character “my paddy pull water” which means “Selfish”.
    By the way I use both 🙂

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  53. Arata Mitsumatsu Avatar
    Arata Mitsumatsu

    This study makes a lot of sense to me. In the East Asian culture showing anger means you can’t control your emotions. If you can’t control yourself there is noway you can control others and obviously an organization.
    Easily showing anger indicates you have low emotional control skills which shows your not tough or immature.
    Oh, and off course there are people in East Asia who think showing anger looks tough so not trying to generalize anything but don’t think it’s a majority.
    Not a good or bad thing. Just the matter of the value system and I think it has lot to do with the farming system. I believe the irrigation for rice farming develops a “collectivistic” culture. There is even a four letter character “my paddy pull water” which means “Selfish”.
    By the way I use both 🙂

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  54. Arata Mitsumatsu Avatar
    Arata Mitsumatsu

    This study makes a lot of sense to me. In the East Asian culture showing anger means you can’t control your emotions. If you can’t control yourself there is noway you can control others and obviously an organization.
    Easily showing anger indicates you have low emotional control skills which shows your not tough or immature.
    Oh, and off course there are people in East Asia who think showing anger looks tough so not trying to generalize anything but don’t think it’s a majority.
    Not a good or bad thing. Just the matter of the value system and I think it has lot to do with the farming system. I believe the irrigation for rice farming develops a “collectivistic” culture. There is even a four letter character “my paddy pull water” which means “Selfish”.
    By the way I use both 🙂

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  55. Arata Mitsumatsu Avatar
    Arata Mitsumatsu

    This study makes a lot of sense to me. In the East Asian culture showing anger means you can’t control your emotions. If you can’t control yourself there is noway you can control others and obviously an organization.
    Easily showing anger indicates you have low emotional control skills which shows your not tough or immature.
    Oh, and off course there are people in East Asia who think showing anger looks tough so not trying to generalize anything but don’t think it’s a majority.
    Not a good or bad thing. Just the matter of the value system and I think it has lot to do with the farming system. I believe the irrigation for rice farming develops a “collectivistic” culture. There is even a four letter character “my paddy pull water” which means “Selfish”.
    By the way I use both 🙂

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  56. Arata Mitsumatsu Avatar
    Arata Mitsumatsu

    This study makes a lot of sense to me. In the East Asian culture showing anger means you can’t control your emotions. If you can’t control yourself there is noway you can control others and obviously an organization.
    Easily showing anger indicates you have low emotional control skills which shows your not tough or immature.
    Oh, and off course there are people in East Asia who think showing anger looks tough so not trying to generalize anything but don’t think it’s a majority.
    Not a good or bad thing. Just the matter of the value system and I think it has lot to do with the farming system. I believe the irrigation for rice farming develops a “collectivistic” culture. There is even a four letter character “my paddy pull water” which means “Selfish”.
    By the way I use both 🙂

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  57. Geoff Crane Avatar
    Geoff Crane

    That’s the truth. I lived in Singapore for ten years, working all over Asia. In my early days (as an arrogant youngster hehe), anger was my first response when I didn’t get my way. In the face of that behaviour, my new Asian counterparts would visibly shut down. The approach seldom worked, and when it did, it was usually to just get me out of their hair.
    What I found worked much better was a long fuse, patience and logic during negotiations. Coming home to Canada with ten years of cultivated zen generally made negotiations infuriating as my once-again-Western counterparts couldn’t believe I could outlast them. LOL

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  58. Geoff Crane Avatar
    Geoff Crane

    That’s the truth. I lived in Singapore for ten years, working all over Asia. In my early days (as an arrogant youngster hehe), anger was my first response when I didn’t get my way. In the face of that behaviour, my new Asian counterparts would visibly shut down. The approach seldom worked, and when it did, it was usually to just get me out of their hair.
    What I found worked much better was a long fuse, patience and logic during negotiations. Coming home to Canada with ten years of cultivated zen generally made negotiations infuriating as my once-again-Western counterparts couldn’t believe I could outlast them. LOL

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  59. Geoff Crane Avatar
    Geoff Crane

    That’s the truth. I lived in Singapore for ten years, working all over Asia. In my early days (as an arrogant youngster hehe), anger was my first response when I didn’t get my way. In the face of that behaviour, my new Asian counterparts would visibly shut down. The approach seldom worked, and when it did, it was usually to just get me out of their hair.
    What I found worked much better was a long fuse, patience and logic during negotiations. Coming home to Canada with ten years of cultivated zen generally made negotiations infuriating as my once-again-Western counterparts couldn’t believe I could outlast them. LOL

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  60. Geoff Crane Avatar
    Geoff Crane

    That’s the truth. I lived in Singapore for ten years, working all over Asia. In my early days (as an arrogant youngster hehe), anger was my first response when I didn’t get my way. In the face of that behaviour, my new Asian counterparts would visibly shut down. The approach seldom worked, and when it did, it was usually to just get me out of their hair.
    What I found worked much better was a long fuse, patience and logic during negotiations. Coming home to Canada with ten years of cultivated zen generally made negotiations infuriating as my once-again-Western counterparts couldn’t believe I could outlast them. LOL

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  61. Geoff Crane Avatar
    Geoff Crane

    That’s the truth. I lived in Singapore for ten years, working all over Asia. In my early days (as an arrogant youngster hehe), anger was my first response when I didn’t get my way. In the face of that behaviour, my new Asian counterparts would visibly shut down. The approach seldom worked, and when it did, it was usually to just get me out of their hair.
    What I found worked much better was a long fuse, patience and logic during negotiations. Coming home to Canada with ten years of cultivated zen generally made negotiations infuriating as my once-again-Western counterparts couldn’t believe I could outlast them. LOL

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  62. Geoff Crane Avatar
    Geoff Crane

    That’s the truth. I lived in Singapore for ten years, working all over Asia. In my early days (as an arrogant youngster hehe), anger was my first response when I didn’t get my way. In the face of that behaviour, my new Asian counterparts would visibly shut down. The approach seldom worked, and when it did, it was usually to just get me out of their hair.
    What I found worked much better was a long fuse, patience and logic during negotiations. Coming home to Canada with ten years of cultivated zen generally made negotiations infuriating as my once-again-Western counterparts couldn’t believe I could outlast them. LOL

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  63. Geoff Crane Avatar
    Geoff Crane

    That’s the truth. I lived in Singapore for ten years, working all over Asia. In my early days (as an arrogant youngster hehe), anger was my first response when I didn’t get my way. In the face of that behaviour, my new Asian counterparts would visibly shut down. The approach seldom worked, and when it did, it was usually to just get me out of their hair.
    What I found worked much better was a long fuse, patience and logic during negotiations. Coming home to Canada with ten years of cultivated zen generally made negotiations infuriating as my once-again-Western counterparts couldn’t believe I could outlast them. LOL

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  64. Geoff Crane Avatar
    Geoff Crane

    That’s the truth. I lived in Singapore for ten years, working all over Asia. In my early days (as an arrogant youngster hehe), anger was my first response when I didn’t get my way. In the face of that behaviour, my new Asian counterparts would visibly shut down. The approach seldom worked, and when it did, it was usually to just get me out of their hair.
    What I found worked much better was a long fuse, patience and logic during negotiations. Coming home to Canada with ten years of cultivated zen generally made negotiations infuriating as my once-again-Western counterparts couldn’t believe I could outlast them. LOL

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