Getting Power: Wisdom from Jeff Pfeffer

Jeff Pfeffer
Last week, I was talking with with Jeff Pfeffer, my friend and frequent co-author, about power in organizations.  Jeff is author of Managing With Power, a great book, which is a standard text for management classes on organizational power and politics throughout the world.  I had just finished reading the first draft his new book on power, and I asked him "You write about many ways to gain power, but don't actually use most of them in your life. Why is that?" For example, Jeff recommends spending time having lunch and the like with powerful people you don't know and also identifying potential enemies and spending time getting them to like you.  He provides empirically sound steps (often based on his own research) about how people who want power should identify the most powerful people and groups, and try to join those groups, to pick an office location that will put you in constant contact with as many powerful people as possible, and a host of other things that I've rarely seen Jeff do. 

Jeff's answer, which I've heard from him before and shows much wisdom, was something like "You can have influence or you can have freedom, but you can't have both. I prefer freedom, my book is for people who prefer to have a lot of influence in an organization."  Indeed, a key implication of Jeff's research, is that if you want to have power, you need to spend your life around lots of other people, often people you don't necessarily like or would choose to socialize with otherwise, and to constantly be thinking of ways to wield influence over them to your advantage.  I've written about this before, and in fact, it is in my list of 15 things I believe on the left of this post (it is #3).

But it really struck for some reason the other day.  It also reminded me of something that the unhappy wife of one of the most successful rainmakers at a large law firm once said to me.  She was complaining about how all consuming her husband's job was, and in particular "We don't have any real friends, we just have one dinner after another with clients and potential clients.  When they are no longer clients, I rarely see them again, even if I like them because we are off with other clients."

Interesting stuff.  It is also astounding how well-crafted Jeff's writings are on power, especially given it is something he usually doesn't want for himself.  His new book will need to go through the editing process and all that, and doesn't have a title yet — but I found it compelling, extremely useful (for people who want to hold or get power), and as always with Jeff, evidence-based. 

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5 responses to “Getting Power: Wisdom from Jeff Pfeffer”

  1. Devin Avatar

    I’m not sure that I’m comfortable with the subtext of this post, and the book. I have known leaders that conduct themselves with direct honest communication an integrity. My interpretation of what you’re describing is that people who want influence must spend much, if not most, of their time manipulating situations and people. Isn’t there a way to try to do business with people that you respect and want to work with as a rule and have these techniques have a minor role? I do understand that we can’t always choose who we work with but this paints a pretty grim picture. When I read this I thought of “48 Laws of Power”. I felt like I needed a shower after I put that book down.

  2. Kevin Rutkowski Avatar
    Kevin Rutkowski

    I would guess that many of the people who are most successful at using the techniques actually enjoy the interactions with other people of influence and do not necessarily consider the actions as a loss of freedom.
    The wife of the man at the law firm may not have been happy, but the man may have been perfectly content.
    I once asked the most successful account executive at my consulting company about his weekend. He told me about playing golf and fishing. I said, “That sounds fun.” He explained that the events were actually work related. He said that some were fun and some weren’t and that he didn’t have any real friends because he spent all his time with clients. However, he also said that was what he ultimately enjoyed and he wouldn’t have it any other way.
    So, leaders who manage with power may still be direct and honest.
    Also, I think that people can be great leaders without “Managing with Power.” I don’t believe that leadership and power have complete correlation.

  3. Jan Avatar

    Very true. But power is also about validation. There are only two really powerful forces in your life, I have heard (except for the physical ones), and that’s fear and validation. We do a lot out of fear, but we also do things to be validated as human beings. Power, status, rewards, and positions, are just evidence of that validation. Maybe Mr Pfeffer doesn’t have this need for validation. His driving force is more internal than from external rewards. If organisations were more tuned to validation from customers, rather than from superiors, I think they would produce better products. I also think this is the reason why large organisations have more trouble producing innovative thinking. They are so obsessed with getting validation from their superiors, rather than from their customers, that the innovative thinking gets lost.

  4. Kevin Rutkowski Avatar
    Kevin Rutkowski

    Jan, I very much like the idea that organizations need to be more focused on validation from their customers rather than from their superiors.
    As I think about some of the odd behaviors of people in the workplace from the perspective of the source of validation, I’m having a series of “ah-ha” moments.

  5. The Freak Factor Avatar

    Power or Freedom?

    Jessica Stillman, my new favorite blogger, points us to Bob Sutton’s recent post about the tradeoff between power and freedom. Sutton, in turn, is discussing Jeffrey Pfeffer’s new book on the subject of managerial power, which has yet to be

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