Another Asshole Infested Hospital

As I’ve written, I first saw how abusive hospitals could be — especially surgeons working in the operating room — when my collage Dan Denison spent a week observing a team of operating room nurses in the early 1980’s.  The worst actions we were by a surgeon we dubbed Dr.Gooser.  And I was writing The No Asshole Rule, and since I started writing this blog, I’ve encountered more and more research, and been told more and more stories, suggesting that nurses are among the consistently bullied workers, and doctors are often the culprits.

I just got a long, sad, and quite articulate email from a scrub nurse who feels trapped in one of these asshole infested places.  I suggested that if she could possibly get out, that might be the best thing for her mental health, but it is unclear that she has this option. If not, as I’ve written in my tips for victims of assholes, this might be one of those cases were organized action could help, but she and others have tried that too. Despite my hesitation about recommending legal action, this just might be a case where that is the best option. Read it and tell me — and especially her — what you think is her best course of action.  Here is the email with only the names removed to protect innocent and the guilty — she first presents what I found to be a very thoughtful contrast between Frankl’s classic and The No Asshole Rule, and then gets on to her difficult cas:

I read your book.  You said that we could write to
you, so I am.  Right after reading Viktor Frankl’s book "Man’s Search
For Meaning", I read your book.  There are a lot of similarities
between the two books about how to get along in a bad work
environment, even though the content is different.  Frankl survived
four Nazi prison camps and wrote about it.  I read Frankl’s
book and then re-read it, typing important passages into my computer since it
was a library book.  By the end, I realized that I should have just
bought the book.  Anyway, if you do a quick read of the first half of his
book (before the section on Logotherapy), you will see that the similarities on
how to deal with the SS and how to deal with today’s work bullies are
similar. 

I’ve read most of the how-to-deal-with-bullies-at-work books
and I think yours is the most pragmatic.  You use multiple scientific
articles to back up your ideas.  Furthermore, most of the other bullying
books only deal with what to do if you’re the CEO or middle management.
If there is a section on what to do if you’re a peon, they were obviously
written by non-peons and their suggestions were not practical  (i.e. quit;
go to HR and complain <HR sides with the bully>; explain yourself to the
bully; work harder, maybe it IS you after all; support anti-bullying
legislation).  Your book gets into the psyche of the asshole/bully and is
more helpful to the peons with better suggestions, even though you cover
the CEO’s, too. 

Some of your suggestions overlapped Frankl’s solutions which
were: know what you’re getting into before you accept "the job"; let
fate take its course and learn to tolerate the abuse; appreciate the good
things that happen; escape if you can; avoid the assholes in life if
possible; keep your mouth shut and blend in; always let them see you working
hard; fantasize about other things; become apathetic to your abuse or other
people’s abuse; die with dignity by not succumbing to becoming an asshole
yourself.  One thing he said that you didn’t that I thought might help in
another publication was that the prisoner/worker should develop
relationships with lateral next line up managers.  In his situation, they
were called Capos–inmate prisoner first-line supervisors.  In our day, it
would be considered shmoozing or networking with lateral managers (not
your own) so that some day, you may get to make a lateral move out from under
an abusive boss or maybe another lateral manager that you have befriended will
put in a good word for you.  Frankl thought that contemplating winning the
war was pointless.  I bet he’d think that anti-bullying legislation was a
pie in the sky idea and didn’t help the bullying victim in the ‘here and
now’.

I work with cardiac surgeons.  They are all pretty much
cut from the same cloth.  They’re all certified assholes, except for
one and I’ve worked with many over the years.  I’ve been working with one
really mean surgeon on a daily basis for 20 years now.  He throws things,
calls us names, charges at us like he’s going to punch us or shove us, he
screams incessantly, he makes jokes about whoever is or isn’t there for the
amusement of the team.  The team has exhibited mobbing behavior and help
to laugh at or target whoever is the target of the day, then they go pat the
target on the back after the 8-10 hours of abuse as a parting gift for being
the abuse receptacle for the day. 

Several years ago, the surgeon went absolutely nuts and pushed
a huge table full of heavy instruments.  Someone caught it before it
slammed a nurse into the wall who had her back to the flying table.
It could have killed her.  He physically backed up one of the scrub techs
against the wall and shook his fists at her, his face beet red and his whole
body shaking with anger.  This type of behavior went on for hours as the
case dragged on.  He threw things, he screamed and called people
names.  In his eyes, everyone was incompetent!  He was hoarse from
all of the screaming.  The anesthesiologist (a doctor) who witnessed the
whole thing said that the target should have called a lawyer.  Did he go
to bat for her to administration?  No.  Did he try to stop the
surgeon from ranting?  No.  After the ordeal, one of the other scrub
techs wrote a synopsis of what happened and reported the doctor to Human
Resources for what he did.  Doctors at our hospital are
self-employed.  They are not employees of the hospital.  Furthermore,
they bring in a lot of business.  They are in the asset column, we are in
the debit column.  We are there to serve the physicians.  A case was
built against the girl who filed the complaint.  They looked into her EAP
(work sponsored counseling) files to find out if she had gone for counseling
(against the law).  They looked into her medical claims to see if she had
any counseling and found that she had gone to counseling (also against the
law), and she had, for marital counseling.  They called her into the head
physician’s office and asked her if she was making this claim against the
physician because she was unhappy about the outcome of a surgery that the
physician in question had performed on her nephew (how did they know that?),
but she wasn’t unhappy with the way the surgery went on her nephew.  He wanted
to know why she was getting counseling.  She just reported what happened,
that’s all.

The head of HR had a meeting with the scrub tech that the
surgeon directed his anger at, and three other members of the team.  Other
members of the staff who were helping out that day and not members of the
regular cardiac team, including the anesthesiologist, were not asked to attend
the meeting.  The scrub tech who made the claim was not asked to
attend.  The HR Director leaned over, pointed at the intended recipient of
the question and got in everyone’s face, and asked them one at a
time, "A___ (the scrub tech who reported the incident) writes here
that she thought that Dr. Y. was about to physically attack B___.  Did YOU
think that Dr. Y. was going to physically attack B___?"
"Yes."  "Did YOU think that Dr. Y was going to physcially
attack B____?"  "Yes."  Did YOU think that Dr. Y. was
going to physically attack B____?"  "Yes."  "B____,
you did not report this incident.  Why didn’t you report this
incident?"  B____ said, "I need this job."  She did
not explain that she just bought a house and she found out she is pregnant and
her husband had just been laid off from his job.  He leaned forward and
asked B____, "B_____, did YOU believe that Dr. Y. was going to physically
attack you?"  "Yes."  "Then why didn’t you report
it?" he asked.  She said, "I need this job.". 
He fell back against the back of his seat and grimaced as if to say,
"I don’t believe it.  Who would put up with that?"  And
then she leaned forward, and again repeated the words with conviction, "I
NEED this job."  She got paid a little over $10/hour.  All
this for $10/hour.  The outcome was that Dr. Y was sent to ONE anger
management session.

Fastforward about 7 years.  This type of thing
continued to go on, but we learned that we were expendable so no
one complained any more.  We learned that it didn’t help.
Occasionally when Dr. Y misbehaved because he couldn’t get what he wanted
because of a Department of Health policy and the nurse in the room was
trying to uphold the state policies (the RN gets fired when the doctor breaks
the State Health Department rules), he would call the head physician of the
hospital who would tell the nurses that he has permission to break the rule,
just this once, again.  One day recently, Dr. Y. went nuts on another
unit, not in the OR.  A group of nurses wrote him up,
again, not knowing that it doesn’t matter.  After that, he was told
that he has to attend another (as in one) anger management class and has been
put on probation.  Probation?  That means that we’re supposed to
watch him for poor behavior and report it, right?  Except that they never
told US in the OR that he’s on probation or that he was sent to anger
management.  They are only telling nursing floors that do not interact
with him that he is to be watched.  Therefore, those of us who COULD
report about him were kept in the dark.  Not that it matters, of
course.  They wouldn’t do anything about it.  That same week,
an anesthesiologist punched a new nurse in the arm and then shoved her
into a wall. There were four witnesses.  A non-witness was asked to
write up the incident to report it to the head physician.  The punched
nurse had a big bruise on her arm the next day.  The abusive  anesthesiologist was
sent to the head physician’s office of the hospital by the acting OR nurse
manager.  He was told by the head physician of the hospital that "he
would be watched".   Watched for what?  And by whom?
The partner of Dr. Y, (Dr. X)  heard about this and smiled and said aloud,
"Oh boy!  It’s open season on nurses!"  Dr. X is currently
being investigated by Child Protective Services for beating his own son
repeatedly.  As for the temporary head nurse of the OR, she is replacing a
nurse with backbone who told the doctors that their abuse couldn’t go on.
The former head nurse of the OR had been told by senior management that senior
management supported her efforts to curb the physician abuse
problem.  Then they demoted her.

The irony of all of this is that our marketing campaign for
our hospital is "Great Place To Work, Great Place to Recieve Care and a
Great Place to Practice Medicine".  Yeah.  There are other
stories I could tell you, like the one about an RN with Lou Gehrig’s
disease not moving fast enough for a surgeon so he threw three big, long,
bloody laparscopes at her one at a time, each time hitting her.  She
couldn’t dodge quite fast enough.  It was reported. Nothing
came of it.  That same surgeon shoved a male scrub tech off of his stool a
total of three times, too.  Apparently, if you can go three rounds
with this surgeon, you’ve survived that episode. The male scrub tech
did not report his incident with this physician because he didn’t want to
look like a whimp.    When physician abuse events are reported,
they are reported to the head physician of the hospital.  We think that
the CEO has an active "kill the messenger" program so nobody gives
him bad news, including the head physician.  I am cutting the CEO slack in
my mind because I can’t believe that he would do absolutely nothing about
all of this abuse if he just KNEW about it.  He must be kept in the
dark on these issues.  I thought for sure, that after Dr. Y’s table
throwing incident and threatening to hurt B____, that it finally would be dealt
with.  It was just too big to ignore. But no, nothing happened,
except for the anger management class.  Oh wait a minute.  I just
remembered.  One of Dr. Y’s ex-partner physicians became an
administrator.  He and another administrator presented a business
case (financials) against Dr. Y to senior management showing how Dr. Y isn’t
just an asshole, he’s a screw-up and his screw-ups are costing the hospital x
number of dollars.  Yes, the CEO finally took action.  He fired the
two administrators for plotting against Dr. Y.  You see, Dr. Y is in
a protected class.  Dr. Y brought in a lawyer to the meeting saying he was
being "harassed".  Case closed.

Honestly, they tell us to "document, document,
document" when it comes to abuse.  But when it IS documented,
the doctor gets a slap on the wrist (anger management times two–oh yes, and he
had to apologize this time) and there is fallout on whoever reported it.
A manager actually told us that senior management considers the nurses dealing
with Dr. Y as "bunch of whiners".  Without documentation,
there’s no case.  With it, there’s retribution.  What does the CEO
really want?

For myself, the biggest sense of disappointment in this
whole issue isn’t that I’m bullied by assholes.  It is the fact that the
CEO sits on his lilly white ass and turns his back to it.  My anger
for the bullies in my life is dwarfed by how angry I am at
the administration and the CEO who allows it to continue, gives
doublespeak about how it won’t be tolerated here (great place to work and all
that bullshit)—and then tolerates it, offering any one of us up for a
human sacrifice on a silver platter at the request of the biggest bully
monster physicians.  That’s what makes me so fucking angry, disappointed,
and disillusioned with the spineless, eunuch "leaders" where I
work.  They couldn’t last one day in my job with the abuse that is hurled
at me.  These nutjob doctors always look psychotic, like they are one
hair’s breadth away from pounding the shit out of me or my co-workers and from
what we have seen in the last month, it isn’t just possible or probable, it’s
real.

 

After the "table throwing incident"  I made
an appointment with a psychiatrist because I was so disillusioned and depressed
with how the administration handled that situation.  I really felt that I
was being fed to the lions and nobody could or would help me.  I
would go to work and just shake.  I’d be on the verge of tears all
day.  The psychiatrist started me on anti-depressants to get through the
day.  There aren’t enough anti-depressants in the world to fix this.
My psychiatrist told me, "I want you to know that I’m putting the wrong
person on anti-depressants.  You’re not the only patient I see because of
Dr. Y."   She eventually diagnosed me with PTSD.  She said that
she treats cops, too, who have PTSD and she said our problems are
identical.  At least the cops are the ones who are supposed to be "in
charge" and they can defend themselves with a gun, if necessary.  She
said she could put me on disability for six weeks, but I refused.  How
would that look?  Who would hire me after that?  I have begged my
spouse to let me quit this job, but my salary pays the mortgage and as I
said, with the type of work I do, the type of people I work
with are the same everywhere you go. (I know because I’ve been around.)
I went back to college part time to learn a new skill.  After
graduating, I couldn’t get a job in that skill without moving out of the
area and my family won’t move.  So I’m stuck.  Until I finally
have a stroke or heart attack of my own and then I’ll be free.  What a
price to pay.

P.S. Dr. Gooser was also a cardiac surgeon. 

Comments

19 responses to “Another Asshole Infested Hospital”

  1. Jonathan Kamens Avatar

    It was difficult to read the abuse. My heart goes out to this nurse and her colleagues.
    I know they need the work, but it’s never going to get any better if they don’t take the risk of standing up for themselves.
    The two ways to do that which seem most likely to be effective are: (a) strike (are they members of a union? why isn’t there anything about the union trying to protect them in this nurse’s story?), (b) take it public.
    By “take it public,” I mean go to the news media. To do that, there need to be enough nurses willing to go on the record and name names to make a newspaper willing to believe and write about the story. There also need to be enough nurses willing to go on the record to make it impossible for the administration to claim that it’s just disgruntled nurses complaining and fire them. And there needs to be enough of a paper trail for the nurses to be able to prove that they’ve been complaining and their complaints have been ineffective.
    Another option might be a complaint with the state agency that handles discrimination complaints. I don’t know what state this is taking place in, but in Massachusetts, it’s illegal for a boss to create a hostile work environment or for management to tolerate it. Such complaints would be handled by the Massachusetts Commission Against Discrimination. It’s very risky, though, because the complaint process takes years, and in the meantime the nurses will probably end up fired.
    Of greatest concern is the risk that any action they take, whether they are successful or not, will get them blackballed and they won’t be able to find work elsewhere in the field.
    It’s all very disturbing. I feel awful that these people are being put through this, and grateful that they tolerate it for the sake of being able to continue their life-saving work!

  2. Peter Cranstone Avatar

    Bob,
    Thanks for posting that. Life is so short that we shouldn’t have to tolerate this kind of abuse.
    The problem is that we’ve forgotten that we are human beings first and we need to learn to get on with each other.
    My advice to the nurse would be to move on. You don’t need drugs – just a change of scenery.
    Peter

  3. Patrick Avatar
    Patrick

    I think the most successful option is to anonymously take it public.
    It seems to me that organising a strike or some other group protest has little chance of success mainly because the probability of organising a group of disillusioned, frightened staff is small. Also, if the CEO refuses to take effective action when individual complaints are made by “expendable” staff, why would he/she listen when a group of “expendable” staff take a stand. Furthermore, even if they did take a stand, if they were unsuccessful in effecting change then morale amongst the nurses would be even lower. It would well and truly reinforced amongst them all that they were expendable. Even worse, it might embolden the surgeons even further.
    I think their best chance of success is to document this behaviour, film works best, and then post it anonymously to Youtube and alert the media. That way, you reduce the chances of retribution against any one individual and you force the CEO to act. Publically naming and shaming them is a powerful weapon and will have 3 effects: it will bring disrepute to the hospital; it will embarrass the surgeon; and it will embarrass the profession. The CEO will be forced to act to mitigate the first issue. The rest of the profession will get involved on the last issue. Nobody wants their profession brought into disrepute. Peer pressure will quickly bring them into line. Especially if you do this enough times at different hospitals.
    You can easily buy small video cameras these days. I don’t know whether you can sneak one in to the operating theatre or whether you can position one outside with a view through a window..

  4. Forex Trader - Retired at 43 Avatar

    Sadly this type of behavoir is not restricted to arrogant out of control surgeons.
    I dealt with the same type of behavoir by our CTO who was considered indispensable.
    It was only after I and 3 other executives decided to leave that the company wised up and terminated him.
    It was my last “job.” It was that experience that convinced me to learn to trade currency and strike out on my own. I’ve never looked back!
    ~ Max

  5. Frank Booth Avatar
    Frank Booth

    I don’t cut nurses any slack.
    They leave clinical nursing, go into Medial IT Management and become giant assholes there, only they’re not being assholes to other nurses, their being assholes to the IT people.
    And yes, I have an axe to grind.

  6. HR Wench Avatar

    The camera is a good idea. Another option is a tape recorder.
    Here is another thought:
    Regardless of workplace violence policies (if they have them, they don’t follow them) if ANYONE lays a hand on you, verbally or physically threatens to harm you then a CRIME has been committed in your workplace and you have every right to CALL THE POLICE and press charges. Skip management, skip HR and call 911. Then tell management/HR right afterwards IF that is the policy of the organization (usually it is). If they fire you for it you can probably sue and get punitive damages ala whistle blower protections.

  7. Jean Avatar
    Jean

    I would like to address my comment to the author, and I hope she can receive it. If you don’t see fit to publish this as a comment, then please consider sending it on to her. This is a message from the heart of one “peon” to another.

    I appreciate the comments above, exploring solutions that involve exposing the system, etc. All that needs to happen, but it doesn’t have to be you.
    But I would like to say, for you, to you: GET OUT AT ALL COSTS.
    You are clearly a smart, courageous woman. I understand why you feel trapped. I understand your indignation, and your rage! I expect that you’ve worked very hard for the education and experience that enables you to have a job that can pay a mortgage, and you should be proud of that. You’ve worked hard for your things. But please don’t let all of that trap you into this miserable place.
    Your story reads like a “battered woman” explaining why she can’t leave the man who beats her. And while that woman often has overwhelming obstacles, she MUST reach out, find help, and get out. Would you agree?
    Please consider these thoughts as fuel for an escape plan.
    1. You have great value, outside of your job, outside of your family. You are, in fact, not a peon at all. Don’t let the assholes of the world make you believe it.
    2. Sell the house. Or rent ths house? Sell everything. None of the stuff is worth your soul. Rent a tiny place with a hot shower, a bed, and kitchenette, and be free.
    3. Do you have any retirement funds? Can you get access to some of this money when you leave? Yes, it’s important to save for retirement, but it’s also important to LIVE until retirement.
    4. Is there temp/contract work in your field? For me, I’ve found this to be a reasonable option to make some money while staying out of office politics.
    5. Can you get a job somewhere else? Your workplace is so horrific. Even though you might not find a good place, it could still be much better, and provide some relief while you plan your next step out.
    6. I don’t know much about your profession. Is there some kind of “caring” work that you could that could keep a small roof over head and get you away from asshole doctors? It may be “below” your skills, but if you can be happy, isn’t that more important?
    7. You do not need the permission of your spouse to quit this job. You are being diagnosed with PTSD related to job stress, and your spouse won’t “let you” quit? But YOU are the one taking care of the mortgage? What the HELL? Do you know how absurd that sounds? You CAN make this choice for yourself.
    8. If you attend church of any kind, this would be a good time to reach out to your community for help in the changes you need to make.
    9. It sounds like you have already sought out some couseling help. I hope you have a counselor who could help you plan for the changes you need to make to save your life. Can you take the 6 weeks disability as part of your escapse plan?
    Okay, well, I’ll leave it at that. One way or the other, I hope things change for the better for you.
    -J.

  8. Nathan Avatar
    Nathan

    It pains me to see someone going through this sort of situation. I’ve been through some rough situations, but nothing like this one.
    The reality is that nurses are in high demand, but are still treated as a commodity. It’s a tough, but extraordinarily valuable profession.
    That said, legal action can be a challenge. I would advise against video recording, since that could trigger some privacy issues.
    It seems to me that legal action is needed, and but numerous individuals. People need to have courage to do what is right and necessary. It’s difficult. You have to pick your opportunities.
    The first thing to do would be to check what sort of workplace bulliying legislation is in place. Contact a lawyer for advice.
    Publicity about these situations would significantly harm a hospital, and rightly so in this situation.
    I can’t imagine this hospital is a good place for patients. Eventually someone will make a mistake and someone will be harmed. Hopefully a death will not result. Then it’s too late.
    The truth will find a way out. It always does. I hope in this instance it is not too late for anyone.
    Don’t cover for assholes. That’s a mistake I often see.
    It is not worth jeopardizing your health over a job like this one. There are always options, they might no be obvious.
    Depending on the housing market, it might be worth looking at refinancing the mortgage. The spouse needs to be more supportive here too.

  9. Tracy Sanders Avatar
    Tracy Sanders

    Wow!! The nurse’s story made me sad. I have a friend who is a Charge Nurse at a major hospital. She was being bullied by an employee who was a protected class. He had the union behind him. She threatened litigation,a nd that was effective. I used to work for the government many years ago — for a military organization. You learn early on that you have to adopt a C.Y.A. policy because many of the officers wouldn’t hesitate to throw a lowly admin. under the bus. There were several times in my career early on where I kept a diary and I noted exact times and exact conversations. An entry might read:
    4/18/08 — 3:46 PM — Standing in front of Col. S’s office and having a conversation with Person X and Person Y when Col S. asked me to change an entry on Document X. I advised Col S. that this was against the law and that I was uncomfortable with it….
    There were a few times that I actually had to pull out the documentation I had kept. It was so meticulous that the next time, they did not mess with me in that manner.
    If it were me, I would just document it all and take it and then I would contact a reporter at a newspaper or go and talk to a lawyer. There is such a thing as reprisal against a whistleblower. I would also take a little microphone in with me to record some of the rants and just keep it in my pocket and depress the button during the most heinous times.
    It’s never pleasant to deal with these types of situations — I hope things get better for you!!

  10. Anonymous Avatar
    Anonymous

    (Dr. Bob: THANK YOU FOR CARING. When I saw my email to you posted on your website, I cried. I don’t feel like one little voice in the darkness anymore.)
    Cameras in the OR are prohibited due to HIPAA (privacy laws). We were “threatened” with cameras in the OR for the purpose of firing any RN who was not requiring the doctor to follow the “time out” procedure (identifying patient, type of procedure and side ). Surgeons couldn’t be bothered stopping 30 seconds for the “time out” and still occasionally openly heckle the RN reciting the required verbal documentation and request for verbal agreement on the procedure. On the contrary, we welcomed videotaping! It would prove once and for all the abuse we endure. Once senior management saw that we were not intimidated by videotaping, but instead empowered by it, at the surgeons request they decided that it was “overkill” to assure compliance with the time-out procedure.
    Unfortunately, nurses, being mostly female, will not stick up for one another. Nurses do not step forward to lead. Leaders are chosen by who does not step back in the face of conflict. This is a non-union hospital.

  11. PerGynt Avatar
    PerGynt

    Hint. Punitive damages are provided by courts so that people with bad habits will think twice about hurting somebody else. So even if you don’t have an injury that costs you money to have treated, you can still discourage abusive people from doing what ever they want to whomever they want.
    Assault is when he makes you immediately expect to be struck or touched harmfully or offensively. Battery is when he actually touches you with his hands or with an object, even if he throws it, offensively or harmfully. So, if he has ever touched you harmfully or offensively, that is battery. A good lawyer might be able to make an argument that anything with blood on it is a dangerous object. Think about that.
    You have suffered from what lawyers call “intentional infliction of emotional distress”. It is a cause of action. You have already had to go to a doctor to be treated for an emotional issue. Now you need to go to a lawyer and settle this matter. Another hint. The hospital is required to protect you and provide you with a safe place to work. That’s the law. If they refuse to protect you from a regime of harassment and abuse they are responsible for your safety at work. Remember, judges don’t usually think you shoul have ot put up with that crap, and they don’t usually expect you to hav eto go get another job if you are being harassed or injured at work.
    Go talk to an employment lawyer. Shop for a good one. Sue the doctor. Sue the hospital. And sue them again if they try to fire you. If you are one of a group of people, encourage everyone to sue the doctor and the hospital. Remember the documentation you all filed? That’s called evidence. You know the things that you all see and tell each other? That’s called testimony. There are laws in this country that disallow brutal people the pleasure of brutalizing other people.Some of these things you are describing are civil torts and some might even rise to being crimes. Remember, judges don’t care whether you are a doctor or a scrub nurse. Standing in a court room is one place where you are absolutely equal. You are not wrong to protect yourself with the law. It is your right. It will be a shame if you do not use the law to protect yourself in this case.
    Do it.
    P

  12. S Avatar
    S

    There’s been some great advice so far, particularly regarding legal action or even calling 911. The piece that is missing, though, is knowing that you aren’t alone (banding with co-workers doesn’t necessarily address this) and that these aren’t isolated incidents. You may want to reach out to groups that are doing work within the healthcare field on a broader basis. IHI is one organization off the top of my head that has a great staff and really works to improve the work environment for doctors and nurses. Maybe it’s time to send your story out to organizations like IHI? At the very least they’d be able to act as a resource for where to go for further action and advice.
    Good luck!

  13. Pru Montgomery Avatar
    Pru Montgomery

    You should tell your nurse contact that they are not treated like that in other countries. We need heaps of nurses here in Australia and I’ve never heard of anything like that happening. Time to consider a move to another country where we appreciate how important nurses are.

  14. Walter Underwood Avatar

    This isn’t an HR matter, it is a criminal matter. These descriptions are clearly assault (the verbal attacks) or battery (the physical attacks). Throwing items covered with blood could be aggravated assault.
    Co-workers may be more likely to talk to a grand jury than to HR.

  15. MJESF Avatar
    MJESF

    This nurse needs to get out of that clearly toxic environment. Having escaped (and litigated about) one, I can tell you that having cash flow problems is much easier than crying every day about having to go to work.

  16. wulansari Avatar

    Many travel nurses claim that working as a travel nurse gives them a renewed sense of patient focused nursing.

  17. Ben Avatar
    Ben

    I agree with those who recommend calling the police. Assault is assault, regardless of where it occurs or who carries it out.
    Regardless of what you do about this publicly, however, please get some actual therapy, not just anti-depressant medication. Therapy is more effective in the long run, prevents relapse, and gives you actual tools that you can use after treatment is over.

  18. Charles Avatar
    Charles

    I’m sorry to hear about your troubles. I think a better way to go about it, is to anonymously report that physician to the state medical board for creating a hostile environment. The medical board is more powerful than anybody else in this case. They can suspend and take away a medical license. Hence the physician wouldn’t have a job and could not obtain another job until the issue is resolved. Generally it should be reserved for severe cases, which the one you describe well surpasses that. Hope this helps.

  19. Righteous Isthelord Avatar

    I have also worked in the OR and observed this type of behavior. I have no answer for this poor nurse, but Harvard surgeon Lucian Leape often gives talk about the “culture of disrespect” that infests healthcare and would not be acceptable in any other industry. He also states that a minority of bad actors are responsible. This cardiothoracic surgeon exemplifies what Dr. Leape tells us about, but of course Dr. Gooser is a hack and couldn’t hold a candle to Dr. Leape and his skills.

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